- Andrew Sullivan, who (like a stopped clock) seems to be right twice a day
- Attackerman portrays Thiessen's argument as self-parody
Thiessen is correct when he says thatSullivan correctly points out that moral truth (to say nothing of historical truth) does not depend at all on the number of people who believe it.Few Americans really believe that the United States employed the same techniques as the Spanish Inquisition, or Nazi Germany, or the Khmer Rouge.They cannot believe that because it does not square with their whole concept of America. What they don't fully understand is how radically Bush and Cheney and Thiessen assaulted the core idea of America in their period in office.
Now, if only he would apply that reasoning consistently... but that's another topic.
Regarding President Obama's rhetoric of abstaining from torture, The Seminal points out yet another Bush-era policy-maker that Obama is appointing to his own administration.
And, on the pop culture front, there seems to be hope that the "Saw" series of torture-as-entertainment flicks may be calling it quits. I can only hope and pray this is true.
Also, apparently someone has written a stage play entitled "Why Torture Is Wrong, and the People Who Love Them." If anyone in St. Louis happens to see this, I'd love to know more about it.