The following links will take you to the extended interview with Marc Thiessen by Jon Stewart of The Daily Show:
There's a lot of material here, and a lot of questions, ranging from how we ought to detain enemy combatants and habeas corpus matters, to the idea that safety depends on our use of "enhanced interrogation," to whether or not our methods involved torture, and so forth. The clips are lengthy, but thought-provoking to listen to. Thiessen does repeat his claim that terrorists thanked interrogators for waterboarding him, but the audience, and Mr. Stewart, are not quite as passive about that claim as Raymond Arroyo was on EWTN.
One thing that strikes me--Thiessen says the purpose of interrogation is to "break" the person being interrogated. Is that already a step to far in the direction of dehumanizing the prisoner? What do you think?
Another thing--Thiessen swears waterboarding isn't torture when we do it (especially to our own troops) but that it is if others do it to Americans. How is that possible?
By the third part of the interview, Stewart's frustration is evident. He wants to know what would have happened if KSM had resisted waterboarding--Thiessen refuses to answer, and he refuses to contemplate that anything but waterboarding would have worked. It gets interesting.
The interview is well worth watching, and if you do watch, I'd love to hear your comments below. Many thanks to the reader who sent it to me!